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Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes September 10, 2025 --------- Page 5 of 14 into consideration initially something like throwing the wood down to be your box, and maybe that’s one of the things we start with to keep the costs minimal, and then we look at what usage looks like and if usage dictates improving those things, then we explore doing that. Commissioner Loidolt also said if just starting with a tee box or toe board and the alignment of the hole needs to be changed, it is very easy to do that. You can move your tee box wherever you want, whereas if you put down granite or concrete then you are stuck there. He said then if you are playing out there, if the layout doesn’t work, and you wanted to move this box six more feet or 20 more feet this way. Mr. Schreder said that would be the hardest way to do it. Commissioner Loidolt said that if they get the play in there and get it worn down, then they can figure out what they need from there. Commissioner Loidolt is all in favor of this, but we do have to figure out parking, and he doesn’t think up by hole seven is a good spot for parking. Chair Anderson said that would be when there would be houses and streets up there. Commissioner Loidolt said that would be awhile. Chair Anderson said that is what he said is the future parking. That’s where he talked about and that is why he brought it up, but not today. Commissioner Niziolek asked if the final plat will come here in the next year or so. Mr. Shelby said that is the expected target because that is when that road would transfer ownership to the city, and he believes summer is what the current tentative plan is, but we all know those things can change. Commissioner Niziolek asked Mr. Shelby if he had heard any conversation about the 45 acres for sale immediately adjacent. Mr. Shelby said no. Chair Anderson said if he remembers right, this is going to be phased development, not all platted at once. Mr. Shelby said if he remembers it right it would be three. Chair Anderson said that a phase next year will have this road. Chair Anderson asked if there were any other questions. Commissioner Goodwin asked if they went with the turf tees would they have to be stored somewhere? Mr. Schreder said, no, that they generally stay out because the course will be played all winter. He thinks it would be a good winter course to play on. Commissioner Loidolt said that during warm winter days it is nice to play, he has played when there is low snow cover. Mr. Schreder said that a lot of the golf courses are finally picking up the idea. Chair Anderson said to stay tuned. 7. PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGER UPDATE 7.1 Parks and Recreation Manager Update Mr. Shelby presented his report and read it word by word. Mr. Shelby said that one other thing that he wanted to mention, which is not in this update because it has been evolving. Last month they talked again about the park usage survey and the commission recommended the survey that had Orono Park included in it, but after internal discussions across departments, and with communications, it has been determined that the version of the survey that will go out will not include Orono in order to get us a better sense of how those three neighborhood parks are used. He knows that the commission spent a lot of time on that, so he wanted to make sure that they were aware of it and be fully transparent before it is sent out to residents. Mr. Shelby said there is also a link to the survey that can be emailed to them tomorrow morning so they can take a look at it. Commissioner Niziolek asked if that matters, and will their input be received and taken into account, or is it a done deal? Mr. Shelby said this is a done deal at this point. He shared that input is always taken and accounted for, but at this point, there were multiple conversations about what that should look like and, ultimately, past experience and professional expertise, it was just determined that putting Orono