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Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes September 10, 2025 --------- Page 4 of 14 Chair Anderson stated, so staff are planning on spending some time doing stuff. He also asked, being there is no money in the budget, how does that work? Mr. Shelby said that in the initial conversations with Mr. Baas was that a lot of this would be done in house in terms of moving land and those kinds of things. It would be a shoulder-season type project. In terms of the tee boxes, he isn’t sure they have advanced that far as to what those would look like because a part of the initial discussion was again making sure there wasn’t money targeted that they didn’t have to spend. He thinks one of the drivers of this was public works seeing this as a shoulder season project that could be done at a very low to no cost. Chair Anderson said, if you don’t buy concrete, asked if natural tee boxes are okay. Mr. Schreder said that generally what he sees is that the granite is down, and then you put a turf tee pad on there, so it stays flat and doesn’t get bumpy. Chair Anderson confirmed that it would be on top of granite. Mr. Schreder said that the people he knows that use them are in Clearwater, which used to be Eagle Trace, now has 4-disc golf courses and they use turf tee pads. He said there is a course in East Bethal called Blue Ribbon Pines which has some turf tee pads. Tim Mackey who lives in Elk River had a course designed near East Bethal that also had turf tee pads. He doesn’t know if he still has those or what is going on with them. There are resources that he has been talking to about where to find them. Mr. Shelby said this is consistent with some of the things that Mr. Baas had earlier investigated too, in terms of getting them for free, getting them used, whatever the case may be but again keeping cost in mind. Chair Anderson said, So Mr. Baas will put together a budget? Mr. Shelby said he is sure Mr. Baas will put together a budget once we get to that point to see what the actual costs would look like. Chair Anderson said, and then construction starting? Mr. Shelby said that it depends, that’s why Mr. Baas would like to go out to Burr Oak with Mr. Schreder and sort of walk and see what they see and talk everything through to what this really looks like. He also thinks the access piece and the parking as suggested tonight is a piece that needs to be ironed out before they start doing anything significant. Chair Anderson asked Mr. Schreder if once this is built, does he think people will actually golf there, being that he couldn’t get anybody to come this year. Mr. Schreder said yes, sand burrs and all. He thinks people will come even though it is kind of early and a very raw piece of property. He thinks the course that gets put in it will go onto the app UDISC and then everybody will look for a course they want to play, and it will be a hit on the map. He thinks it will be busy, and it will bring real disc golf to Elk River. He doesn’t want to put down Lions Park, which is great for beginners, but disc golf is growing at a rate that doubles every year. Chair Anderson said without a place to park. Mr. Schreder said there will be cars lined up on County Rd 33. Chair Anderson said that is a bad idea. Commissioner Niziolek said that it is way too busy. He thinks the parking issue has to be ironed out before they can proceed. Mr. Shelby said he agrees which is where they are headed, which is why Mr. Baas wants to go out with Mr. Schreder and see if they can iron those things out before they take any other steps forward. Chair Anderson asked if it makes any sense to have nine rather than 18 holes to start. Mr. Schreder said it is possible. Chair Anderson asked if no one would show up if it was just nine. Mr. Schreder said that is not necessarily true. It could be the best 9-hole course in the state. It will be the most attractive course in the area. Chair Anderson asked how big the granite pads are. Mr. Schreder said 10 by 15 feet. He said you could put a frame in and pour concrete, but he thinks it would sink there so he thinks they would have to have something underneath it, not that they have that option. He said they could set up two stakes in the ground and that could be the tee which could be dirt. Chair Anderson asked if you could start that way. Mr. Schreder said yes, you could start that way. You could put a four-by-four-foot toe board down and that is the front of the tee. Chair Anderson asked if they could start that way? He said they would see what Mr. Baas comes back with, because granite is cheap but not free. Mr. Shelby said that one of the things that Mr. Baas took