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City of Elk River/Sherburne Co. Engineering Meeting September 28, 2004 Page 2 be somewhat conservative in his estimation and would review it with Dave so that Dave could have some confidence in the year he was programming a signal installation. 3. Lincoln Street/CSAH 13 Intersection Dave and T eny briefly discussed the status of the Orrin Thompson proposed project along CSAH 13 and east of the Sunset Ridge development. Dave and his department have heard a number of times over the last few months from residents of Sunset Ridge about the safety concerns of the intersection at Lincoln Street and CSAH 13. T eny indicated that as far as he was concerned, City staff would continue to recommend that there be a connection from the Orrin Thompson development to Sunset Ridge in the southeast corner to provide an alternative means of access for residents from Sunset Ridge that may either want to head south and! or avoid the CSAH 13 intersections. Dave and T eny briefly discussed potential options the County may have if Lincoln Street access remains open but is a safety concern. Options would include either some type of median on CSAH 13 to preclude left turns and make Lincoln Street into a right-in right-out, or some type of raised median at the intersection that would allow right turn vehicles in and right turn vehicles out, but would not allow left turns out or left turns in. 4. County Road 40 Issues Dave and T eny briefly reviewed the previous cost estimate that T eny had put together and submitted to the County. Dave provided T eny with a set of soil borings from County Road 40 and comments relative to the cost estimate from one of his staff members. The basic comments were that the unsuitable soil items in the cost estimate relative to the south end where Trott Brook crosses and the wetlands encroach into the road right-of-way appear to be somewhat low. T eny indicated that he will take the information and revise the cost estimate accordingly. T eny also asked about left turn provisions from CSAH 12 and CSAH 13 onto County Road 40. Dave thought that was a good idea. Teny indicated he would include those items in the cost estimate, also. T eny and Dave discussed and Dave indicated that a left turn from a County road to a County road would be the County's cost. Dave indicated that he felt that this proposal of turn-back given the cost participation requirement, would be looked on favorably by the County Administration and the County Board. T eny suggested that we get the cost estimate revised to where Dave and Terry are both comfortable with it, and then coordinate a meeting with Dave and T eny and the City and County Administrators to review the proposal and the cost issues for each party. From there, hopefully, the proposal can be brought back to the aty Council and the County Board for their blessings. At that point in time, we would look for the County Attorney's office to prepare the agreement laying out the conditions under which the road would be turned back to the City. T eny indicated that he would have the revised cost estimate back by sometime early next week and hopefully, the meeting with the two administrators could be coordinated shortly thereafter. Submitted by: ~~ T erty J. Maurer, P .E. City Engineer