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CITY OF ELK RIVER/SHERBURNE COUNTY ENGINEERING MEETING SHERBURNE COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28,2004 Attendees: Dave Schwarting, Sherburne County Engineer; T eny Maurer, City of Elk River Engineer; John Anderson, Howard R Green Company 1. Mississippi Road/Joplin Street 4-Way Stop T eny indicated that he has heard from a Councilinember about constituents concerns regarding traffic of Mississippi Road running the stop sign at the intersection of Joplin Street. T eny indicated he has left a voice mail for Rhonda Lewis regarding this issue but wanted to bring it up with Dave. T eny asked if the County would consider putting up the larger stop signs and/or some type of other warning device. Dave indicated he would look into the situation. He stated that the County has policy regarding speed of traffic and dai1y average traffic where the larger stop signs are utilized. The County wants to maintain consistency with this policy throughout the County. Dave was not exactly sure of the cutoffs on the policy withoutlooking it up, nor was he sure of the speed and traffic on Mississippi Road. Dave indicated he would look into the situation and get back to T eny. 2. Line Avenue Cul-de-Sac Issue T eny indicated to Dave that at the last City Council meeting, the Elk River City Council voted 3-2 to cul-de-sac Line Avenue. They provided further direction that Teny should come up with a plan, a list of issues and recommendations on how to address the issues, and report back to the City Council. T eny indicated that he has recently discussed this situation with Dick Corbin of Dave's staff. Dick has forwarded a letter to Teny from July 2002 that was written by Sherburne County in response to reviewing the Marshes of Trott Brook Farms. The letter indicates that the full access from Marshes of Trott Brook Farms onto CSAH 13 is a temporary situation that can be removed in the future under certain circumstances. Teny indicated and Dave concurred that with Line Avenue being cul-de- sac'd and the need to remove the left turn lane from CSAH 13 onto Line Avenue, now would be the appropriate time to just extend the median and limit access to Marshes of Trott Brook to right-in right-out. TIlls will eliminate any potential for cut-through traffic using Marshes of Trott Brook area to access southbound CSAH 13, rather than using Trott Brook Parkway to access CSAH 13. T eny went on to ask Dave about programming and installing a signal system at the intersection of CSAH 13 and CSAH 12. Tenyindicated that as soon as Line Avenue is cul- de-sac'd there will be significantly more traffic at the northerly leg of that intersection. Dave asked if the City could project what year the warrant for traffic signal installation would be met. T eny indicated that the City had previously done the warrant study and could likely project, based on traffic that would be there innnediately after the cul-de-sacing of Line Avenue. T eny indicated that the City would re-evaluate the signal warrants and re-count the traffic and project the year that they felt that the signal warrants would be met. Dave indicated if the City would do that, the County would budget for a signal in their CIP that year. However, Dave cautioned that if the signal warrants were not met the year it was programmed, the signal would not be installed and the signal would likely have to be re- programmed in a further out year. T eny indicated that with that knowledge that he would