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City Council Minutes Page 5 <br /> November 3,2014 <br /> recommendation is to use permeable pavers to reduce stormwater runoff, and that requires <br /> a base of 3'—5' deep of crushed granite,in order to hold the water. <br /> Councilmember Westgaard stated he felt providing seating was a park issue and should be <br /> included in the Park Plan. He asked why Option 5 is off the table, and felt they need to <br /> have a discussion with the Fire Department as to the necessity of the access, since there <br /> are other ways to access the site in case of a fire. Ms. Fischer had discussion with Fire <br /> Chief Cunningham to clarify. The alley is 15 feet wide, not the required 20-foot wide <br /> space for emergency services. Therefore, a portion or the entire alley could be closed. <br /> Chief Cunningham did request that adequate space be left available at the bottom of the <br /> alley to accommodate a fire truck if needed. <br /> Councilmember Motin stated he would like to bring the issue to the downtown business <br /> owners for input. Mr. Hecker stated Steve Benoit, of his staff, contacted the group and let <br /> them know the issue is being discussed. Mr. Hecker stated some grass and seating on the <br /> bank would provide more space for concert patrons. <br /> Councilmember Motin asked where the trees would be relocated,and if there would only <br /> be grass on the bank. Mr. Hecker stated some low shrubs could be added,which would <br /> not block the view. Councilmember Motin stated he was unsure about using pressed <br /> concrete,but asked how they would know for sure they would get 25 years out of the <br /> pavers. Ms. Fischer stated a representative of Borgert could attend a future meeting and <br /> provide details on the products. <br /> Councilmember Burandt stated she felt it was important to address both the aesthetics and <br /> the run-off. Discussion followed regarding their options. It was noted replacement of the <br /> pavers with the same type of paver would not address the stormwater run-off concerns, <br /> nor would the use of stamped concrete. Discussion also followed regarding whether the <br /> pavers should be replaced on the crosswalks. <br /> Mayor Dietz asked why they need to have pavers in the crosswalks,if they are deteriorated <br /> from salt. He noted it is difficult to see the crosswalk now with the patching. Mr. <br /> Thompson stated the pavers are designed to hold up to salt, but the pavers currently in <br /> place have been determined to be inferior. He stated they could paint lines to make the <br /> crosswalk area more visible. <br /> Councilmember Wilson stated he would like to see pavers stay in all the current locations. <br /> He felt they should look more closely at Option 5 and noted that he was never fond of the <br /> alley being left open and seemed to be unnecessary and confusing for drivers and <br /> pedestrians. <br /> Mr. Thompson noted he recalls the alley was used years ago for pumper trucks to get <br /> down to the river to fill with water,but that practice has long been abandoned. <br /> Mayor Dietz asked if the projects mentioned could be done "piecemeal"- first,by fixing <br /> the pavers, and then the Park Commission could look at the retaining walls and the <br /> POWERED 0Y <br /> 1`4M <br />