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unknowledgable. Worst of all, when they try to give background information, they find that <br />many young reporters have what is called the "Woodward and Bernstien" syndrome. They are <br />much more intent on exposing corruption than in understanding what goes on at a meeting. <br /> <br />The State of Oregon is evidently highly organized. One city manager complained to be about <br />their myriad of regulations about their plans, their ordinances and their urban service areas. <br />Every time a zoning ordinance is changed, for example, even if it only a change in setbacks, <br />some forms have to be filled out, and it has to be approved by a state office, which can take a <br />few months. According to this manager, it was a good idea gone wild. <br /> <br />On the other hand, the state has mandated some procedures for inventorying and preserving <br />historic buildings, and this has been the catalyst for the economic rejuvenation of some <br />downtowns. <br /> <br />Lot sizes in that state (and in many other locations) are typically much snaller than here. <br />Their residential zones are R-5, R-7 and R-10 for minimum sizes of 5,000, 6,000 and 10,000 <br />square feet respectively. In the agricultural zones, though, there are some huge minimum lot <br />sizes of 640 acres. <br /> <br />One complete morning session was devoted to the costs of urban sprawl. The session included <br />a great deal of valuable information, but like the Southeast Michigan COG piece in our packet, <br />it was more about the costs to a metropolitan area when suburbs develop. One of the <br />presenters was a professor from Rutgers University, and he told me afterwards that he would <br />try to send me information on studies comparing the urban costs of small and large lots in <br />outlying areas. <br /> <br /> <br />