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Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes Page 3 May 10, 2023 Mr. Hecker presented the staff report. Staff is recommending moving lots #180 through #184 to the far west section in Outlot H at the end of Road A to provide better, fuller access to the body of water. Mr. Tabone, Land Entitlement Manager representing Lennar Homes 16305 36th Ave N Plymouth, shared after the discussions at the meeting last year there was a lot of talk about trail systems. Lennar Homes looked at shifting homes to the west section of Outlot H but you would lose some of the usable area. Lennar Homes is asking to use the upland area for park dedication which is 34 acres of upland with water features in the middle. Chair Williams asked Mr. Tabone if Lennar was okay with moving lots #180 through #184. Mr. Tabone said they will review that option after receiving comments from the planning department but cannot guarantee that it will work. Commissioner Anderson asked how many acres are buildable or programmable in Outlot H. Mr. Tabone shared that is about 5-6 acres. Commissioner Anderson asked about the trail around the upper pond in Outlot E. Mr. Tabone shared they need to look at that and it will be part of the future preliminary plat for that area. Commissioner Loidolt asked why staff is recommending moving the homes to the west section of Outlot H. Mr. Hecker stated that staff felt it would provide greater access to the body of water in Outlot G. Mr. Stremcha stated depending on the topography it would consolidate Outlot H so if there is programming or events it wouldn’t be taking place in someone’s backyard. Chair Williams stated he would like to hold off on the discussion of moving the lots until next month so Lennar can work on it. Commissioner Brown would rather have the lots where they are today because he wouldn’t want a park on each side of the houses. Commissioner Niziolek would be more comfortable if the entire park and trails were laid out before we begin. He understands it will be constructed in phases but wants to know what the park will be like in its entirety. He also thinks the city should look at a shoreline management plan that will maintain and enhance the body of water. Mr. Tabone said that sounds like something the city will do in the future once the Outlots were conveyed to the city. Commissioner Anderson asked if we can put the action items on hold until next month since we are withholding one of the items. He feels like the programmable space looks small and wants to make sure the property is giving us the space to do the programming we want. Chair Williams shared that 5-6 acres is the same usable space as Trott Brook Park. Mr. Tabone shared 5-6 acres is a good programmable space and added that even though it’s not highlighted around the water features there are spaces for lookouts, vistas, and park areas that range from a quarter acre to a half-acre. Mr. Tabone would like the recommendation to come from the commission to move forward as of tonight and would prefer not to wait a month. Mr. Tabone shared there was discussion about programming the park or leaving it natural and the intention was to provide this area for the city to decide how to use it. Chair Williams asked if it could potentially be 4 to 5 years before it’s ready to be programmed. Mr. Tabone said that is correct and the plan is to start construction in the northwest corner, Outlot D. Mr. Stremcha asked if Lennar reviewed Outlot C as potential for park dedication with a trail connection through the middle. Mr. Tabone did make note of that since the request was to remove the trail on the west side but isn’t sure his engineer had time to vet the upland area with a trail corridor through there. He thinks that would be a great idea to wrap linear trails through ponds and wetlands as it is a great aesthetic feature. He has no doubt the 34 acres will change as the plans are fine tuned.