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<br />Planning Commission Minutes/Elk River Station <br />June 26, 2001 <br />Page 12 <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />that they tend to all look alike. He added that there are also marketing reasons why they <br />chose the row house design. <br /> <br />Commissioner Ropp asked what the estimated population of this area would be when built <br />out. John Peterson, Oakwood Land Development, co-applicant, explained that he was <br />asked to write a letter by MN/Dot on this issue for their applicant for federal funds. He <br />stated that there are approximately 475 units proposed including 208 apartments, 196 <br />townhomes, and between 70 and 90 senior housing units. Estimating less than two people <br />per unit would be 900 - 1,000 residents. Commissioner Ropp questioned how much retail is <br />proposed in the project to serve these residents. Mr. Pratt stated that there will be a total of <br />approximately 80,000 square feet of retail which will be scattered throughout an area within <br />walking distance of the senior housing building. <br /> <br />Chair Pederson asked if the streets will be standards width or less. City Engineer Terry <br />Maurer stated that this issue has not been worked out yet. <br /> <br />Mr. Harlicker asked if there would be any retail space in the senior housing building. Mr. <br />Pratt stated that this area would be strictly senior housing and daycare. He noted that Carol <br />Mills of Guardian Angels proposed that a daycare be built attached to the senior housing, <br />stating that their studies have shown that this makes sense. She also stated that the seniors <br />like to be "front and center" to all the activity where they can see it. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Commissioner Mesich asked why the first plan did not include the green spaces and the <br />"traffic calming" layout which is now being proposed. Mr. Pratt explained that a project of <br />this size is done with a companion market study and that several designs were done, <br />including the one being presented tonight. He stated that by listening to what the <br />community wanted, which was more open green space, this plan was chosen. H;e noted that <br />in some communities, they want the most density possible, and they are not as <br />concerned about quality green space. <br /> <br />John Pederson noted that the original plan advocated by their planner, Marc Putman and <br />Leonard Pratt had this amount of green space. He explained that it is his responsibility to <br />make sure that the project is economically feasible. He stated that the amount of sidewalk <br />and trails in this project is huge and beyond any other development in his experience. He <br />felt the landscaping is extraordinary and the costs are extensive. He felt more density would <br />be needed to make it work, but he now feels they can make it work with this plan. He stated <br />that the last proposal the Commission saw was driven by costs. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Ijaz Osman, 10616 175th Avenue NW, neighboring resident, asked why there is such a push <br />for high density. Mr. Pratt explained that the idea behind the proposal is based on creating a <br />transportation-oriented community, with a Park & Ride, and, if funded, a light rail transit <br />station, which offers people alternative ways to get to work. The model for how this works <br />is to put housing where people can live and walk to transportation alternatives. He <br />explained that from a planning perspective, density is definitely justified in this type of area. <br />He noted that this type of living is not for everyone, but it offers another choice for a <br />growing community like Elk River. Mr. Putman added that planning data for this type of <br />project has been gathered from all over the country. Mr. Osman asked if it has been proven <br />that it works and stated that he has read an article that only ten percent of the people living <br />in this type of community actually used the alternative transportation which was available. <br />Mr. Pratt stated that this is s chance developers take. He explained that over time, he felt the <br />ridership will grow as the highways become more congested. He stated that the Park & Ride <br />and the light rail system will offer people who want to live in Elk River an alternative way to <br />
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