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Fischer accepts that the initial costs will be expensive but that the long term benefits may be in place. Thompson asked if it was still true that if you charge an EV during peak, that it will actually draw from the EV into the grid. Sayler stated that that is possible but very rare. However, some EV owners actually charge for cheap during off peak hours and sell back to the grid during peak hours. Thompson noted that there are some mechanical differences with EVs and additional training may be required for city mechanics. Mroz will look into possible grants and funding. Sagstetter will look into possible locations for an EV charging station at city facilities. Sagstetter also suggested adding the 480 location to the Design Committee's checklist for building permits. Hamann suggested looking into an incentive or mandate for new development with 480 transformers to be located in an ideal location for possible charging stations in the future. Flatland suggested promoting the 480 transformers as a first step. At this time, the Fleet Committee is receptive of a pilot project with EV and alternative fuel vehicles. Fischer and Thompson will take the discussion back to the Fleet Committee and continue researching options. 5.4 Chamber of Commerce Commissioner Mroz gave the staff report. Sagstetter suggested a commissioner with a marketing background. Tanaka suggested a commissioner that is active with and connected to the Chamber. 6. Next Meeting Agenda Items (November 19, 2014) 6.1 High 5 Program 6.2 City Alternative Fuels and Electric Vehicle recommendation to Fleet Committee 7. Announcements 7.1 Commissioner Updates Sagstetter mentioned that Mroz and Sagstetter have a meeting with the Chamber of Commerce that afternoon to go over updates and discuss a possible new Commissioner.